Comments on: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/ Spotlight's Game Reviews Fri, 01 May 2009 08:22:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Xmaster /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2478 Xmaster Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:27:29 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2478 I love this game, and get kind of annoyed at people who instantly stop playing this game just because it may have used the Lords name in vain. I still dont recall any of its use btw, or if I do its usually like " By the nine divines" or somthing like that not relating to our God. Also I like the fact about this game how you can choose not to commit murder, and how little swearing there is in the game. Within the +40 hours or so I've put into this game, I could probably count the swears I've heard on one hand. I love this game, and get kind of annoyed at people who instantly stop playing this game just because it may have used the Lords name in vain. I still dont recall any of its use btw, or if I do its usually like ” By the nine divines” or somthing like that not relating to our God. Also I like the fact about this game how you can choose not to commit murder, and how little swearing there is in the game. Within the +40 hours or so I’ve put into this game, I could probably count the swears I’ve heard on one hand.

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By: A.M /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2475 A.M Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:35:25 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2475 @Ben You could host it on a private site instead of public on Planet Elder Scrolls or TESnexus. I'd happily download your mod id you do it. I'll also help you with textures if you need any, I have some texturing experience and Photoshop CS4. I'd give you my email, but... I can't PM on this site, can I? If you have an account on the Bethesda Forums, my username is "Who Cares?" and you can PM me from there (I know, it's rather childish, its a long story). @Ben

You could host it on a private site instead of public on Planet Elder Scrolls or TESnexus. I’d happily download your mod id you do it.

I’ll also help you with textures if you need any, I have some texturing experience and Photoshop CS4. I’d give you my email, but… I can’t PM on this site, can I?

If you have an account on the Bethesda Forums, my username is “Who Cares?” and you can PM me from there (I know, it’s rather childish, its a long story).

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By: Ben /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2474 Ben Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:56:44 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2474 @<a href="#comment-2155" rel="nofollow">Widubert</a>: I was thinking recently that if I started playing the game again I'd like to do exactly that - go around changing the 'churches' ingame to ones, and other modifications. I've done a few mods before, so it would be pretty fun and not impossible to do; the only worry I would have is having it publicly released and people with not so honest intentions using it for blasphemous reasons. :( Not sure where to take the idea really. @Widubert:

I was thinking recently that if I started playing the game again I’d like to do exactly that - go around changing the ‘churches’ ingame to ones, and other modifications. I’ve done a few mods before, so it would be pretty fun and not impossible to do; the only worry I would have is having it publicly released and people with not so honest intentions using it for blasphemous reasons. :( Not sure where to take the idea really.

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By: Mike /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2473 Mike Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:44:44 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2473 To me, violence and some mild sexual content, that I might not even find, isn't my problem. It's the magic, false gods, and maybe even the potion-making/drinking aspect that really get my conscience. I played WoW for years and didn't feel good about it at all. And, playing rpgs for a major portion of my life, I'm having difficulty either accepting that I can't play them anymore, or understanding which one's are right to play. To think playing Oblivion, WoW, or even FF has nothing to do with our spirituality seems more like rationalizing, but I just don't know, or don't want to accept it. thoughts on this would be nice To me, violence and some mild sexual content, that I might not even find, isn’t my problem. It’s the magic, false gods, and maybe even the potion-making/drinking aspect that really get my conscience.

I played WoW for years and didn’t feel good about it at all. And, playing rpgs for a major portion of my life, I’m having difficulty either accepting that I can’t play them anymore, or understanding which one’s are right to play.

To think playing Oblivion, WoW, or even FF has nothing to do with our spirituality seems more like rationalizing, but I just don’t know, or don’t want to accept it.

thoughts on this would be nice

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By: Willow700 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2449 Willow700 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:26:08 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2449 I've also played this game. The story drew you in and the gameplay was fun. I do believe though that the "gods" in the game were not all endowed with good virtues. It has been some time since I've played but I do believe one indulded in drinking, and another in something else. aha, I found it: http://www.imperial-library.info/nine_divines/ Some examples: -One god's followers offer "erotic instruction". -One, depending on the cult, is either married to one god or another one or is a concubine to both. I’ve also played this game. The story drew you in and the gameplay was fun. I do believe though that the “gods” in the game were not all endowed with good virtues. It has been some time since I’ve played but I do believe one indulded in drinking, and another in something else. aha, I found it: http://www.imperial-library.info/nine_divines/
Some examples:
-One god’s followers offer “erotic instruction”.
-One, depending on the cult, is either married to one god or another one or is a concubine to both.

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By: SvenDof /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2380 SvenDof Fri, 10 Apr 2009 04:42:57 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2380 This game is absolutely awesome. It's so huge, and tons of fun to play. Everything down to the character customization is very well detailed. The weapon handling is also great. I think there may have been a T-released version at one point in time. The violence is very minimal comapred to other M-rated games, and I don't think that any of the other stuff it was rated for should turn players away from it. So I totally agree with "A.M." up their. Check it out! Bottom Line: If I had kids I'd buy it for them! (But I'm 15) This game is absolutely awesome. It’s so huge, and tons of fun to play. Everything down to the character customization is very well detailed. The weapon handling is also great. I think there may have been a T-released version at one point in time.
The violence is very minimal comapred to other M-rated games, and I don’t think that any of the other stuff it was rated for should turn players away from it.
So I totally agree with “A.M.” up their.
Check it out!

Bottom Line: If I had kids I’d buy it for them! (But I’m 15)

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By: Luke /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2244 Luke Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:57:48 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2244 I think that when they use the Lord's name in vain the npcs may be talking about the gods in the game rather then the real God. After all, their isn't Jesus or God in the game. I think that when they use the Lord’s name in vain the npcs may be talking about the gods in the game rather then the real God. After all, their isn’t Jesus or God in the game.

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By: Widubert /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2155 Widubert Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:15:31 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2155 I think it's about time someone made a mod for this game. Making mods for Oblivion is quite easy, and you could insert bible books in it (that you can read in-game). You could change the nine gods into nine saints, and change all references to 'the Nine' to 'God'... Just some ideas... Given the very atmosphere in the game (cathedrals everywhere, a monestary etc.) these adaptations wouldn't be out of place at all. At the moment there is no such mod. Unfortunately my computer can't really handle the TESIV construction set all that well (terribly slow...), but I might try anyway someday. Anyway, wouldn't it be better, in stead of complaining, to make this very popular game the first RPG in a world? [Again, the technical part is NOT difficult, so that's no excuse ;) ] I think it’s about time someone made a mod for this game. Making mods for Oblivion is quite easy, and you could insert bible books in it (that you can read in-game). You could change the nine gods into nine saints, and change all references to ‘the Nine’ to ‘God’… Just some ideas… Given the very atmosphere in the game (cathedrals everywhere, a monestary etc.) these adaptations wouldn’t be out of place at all.

At the moment there is no such mod. Unfortunately my computer can’t really handle the TESIV construction set all that well (terribly slow…), but I might try anyway someday.

Anyway, wouldn’t it be better, in stead of complaining, to make this very popular game the first RPG in a world?

[Again, the technical part is NOT difficult, so that's no excuse ;) ]

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By: NonConformist17 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-2012 NonConformist17 Sun, 08 Feb 2009 08:46:26 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-2012 "Oblivion is one of my favorite games, ever. I???ve had it for over a year and still play it (and still haven???t beaten it in its entirity). The violence is minimal, hardly anything really. To be honest, the most blood comes from crabs you can kill. Everything else barely gushes at all. There is almost no gore (a few zombies, already gored; nothing you inflict). As far as spiritual aspects, you have to take the game as an alternate reality. There is no real god. There is no Jesus. So inadvertantly, there is no Christianity. If you can get over that you???ll love this game. --Chris" Well said Chris... after all this is just a game. Furthermore... there is more 'mysticism' in Narnia than there is in this game. No reason to hate this game at all. I personally love it. “Oblivion is one of my favorite games, ever. I???ve had it for over a year and still play it (and still haven???t beaten it in its entirity). The violence is minimal, hardly anything really. To be honest, the most blood comes from crabs you can kill. Everything else barely gushes at all. There is almost no gore (a few zombies, already gored; nothing you inflict). As far as spiritual aspects, you have to take the game as an alternate reality. There is no real god. There is no Jesus. So inadvertantly, there is no Christianity. If you can get over that you???ll love this game.
–Chris”

Well said Chris… after all this is just a game. Furthermore… there is more ‘mysticism’ in Narnia than there is in this game. No reason to hate this game at all. I personally love it.

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By: A.M. /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/comment-page-1/#comment-1926 A.M. Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:34:14 +0000 /2008/03/18/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion/#comment-1926 As for the 'obscenity' in this game, I'll have you know, I played a lot of it and here's how it came across to me. Oblivion presents a realistic fantasy world where the people there are as diverse as the people here, and you will find evil people in Oblivion. HOWEVER, I believe the game handled this EXTREMELY well in the way it presents evilness. There is VERY LITTLE sexual content in the game, and it is all handled very well, there is NOTHING explicit whatsoever. Let's not forget that there are no scantily outfits in the game (Shivering Isles aside- there is one scantily clad character, the Duchess of Dementia)- besides looting a female corpse of her gear, which leaves her in her underwear- even this just looks like a standard bikini. I wouldn't say that this game has obscenity lurking in the corners. There are some swearing, yet none are the more 'harsh' words, and the violence is actually quite minimal compared to other games. The whole Realm of Oblivion quests are the most violent experiences the game has to offer, and yet, your character plunges in to redeem the world of this cursed place, and I find that concept encouraging. IN fact, the biggest offense Christians would find in this game is the polytheism. However, because Oblivion is a fantasy world, we aren't seeing gods in here like Baal or Ra. We're seeing fantasy gods which all have qualities of goodness and virtue, and are all part of who our God is, in a sense. Some could even take Oblivion as far as to an allegory. Good and Evil are distinct, unlike many Eastern religions where good and evil seem to compliment each other and 'work together' in the grand scheme of Oneness. The game celebrates goodness and frowns upon evilness. Your character will receive 'fame' and 'infamy' points judging by the choices he or she makes and will be responded to accordingly by the people of the world- people will love you or hate you. The biggest issue that I would have if I were a parent when giving this game to my kid is the time factor- since this is an RPG- and a huge one at that, its easy to get lost in Oblivion and forget about the real world. If you have a particularly obsessive teen wanting this game, you might want to limit their time with it. It. Is. Huge. All in all, I highly recommend Oblivion. As for the ‘obscenity’ in this game, I’ll have you know, I played a lot of it and here’s how it came across to me.

Oblivion presents a realistic fantasy world where the people there are as diverse as the people here, and you will find evil people in Oblivion. HOWEVER, I believe the game handled this EXTREMELY well in the way it presents evilness. There is VERY LITTLE sexual content in the game, and it is all handled very well, there is NOTHING explicit whatsoever. Let’s not forget that there are no scantily outfits in the game (Shivering Isles aside- there is one scantily clad character, the Duchess of Dementia)- besides looting a female corpse of her gear, which leaves her in her underwear- even this just looks like a standard bikini.

I wouldn’t say that this game has obscenity lurking in the corners. There are some swearing, yet none are the more ‘harsh’ words, and the violence is actually quite minimal compared to other games.

The whole Realm of Oblivion quests are the most violent experiences the game has to offer, and yet, your character plunges in to redeem the world of this cursed place, and I find that concept encouraging.

IN fact, the biggest offense Christians would find in this game is the polytheism. However, because Oblivion is a fantasy world, we aren’t seeing gods in here like Baal or Ra. We’re seeing fantasy gods which all have qualities of goodness and virtue, and are all part of who our God is, in a sense. Some could even take Oblivion as far as to an allegory. Good and Evil are distinct, unlike many Eastern religions where good and evil seem to compliment each other and ‘work together’ in the grand scheme of Oneness. The game celebrates goodness and frowns upon evilness. Your character will receive ‘fame’ and ‘infamy’ points judging by the choices he or she makes and will be responded to accordingly by the people of the world- people will love you or hate you.

The biggest issue that I would have if I were a parent when giving this game to my kid is the time factor- since this is an RPG- and a huge one at that, its easy to get lost in Oblivion and forget about the real world. If you have a particularly obsessive teen wanting this game, you might want to limit their time with it. It. Is. Huge.

All in all, I highly recommend Oblivion.

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